Becoming part of the community
What is clear is that after a decade, Webb has become a beloved figure in the community. Indonesia has lost about a quarter of its forests in the past 25 years. “I think one of the best things that she did was that she created a great team,” Nirmala said.
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“It’s like an earthquake in your feet,” Webb says. People trust their doctors and then they listen to us.”
Join us on Thursday, Dec. Kinari Webb performs an exam at her clinic in Indonesia. “Right now, I’m just thinking about one thing: I want my wife to be well again,” Masdi says. And reduced deforestation also means less climate-warming carbon dioxide is being released into the atmosphere when the forest is cut. Webb’s colleague Nirmala says here, in a place better known for its endangered orangutans than the poor health of its residents, putting people first has been key to Webb’s success. The clinic and conservation team together require more than 100 people to run, and the remote forested areas most in need of protection from logging are some of the hardest places to reach with health care infrastructure. And the health of both were linked. “Why should I pay more than the others when I didn’t do anything bad in my village, I never was a logger?,” Utari says some people say. You can see that in Sukadana today. Webb says back in the ’90s, you would constantly hear chainsaws buzzing away inside the park, and feel the trees falling. Because when her neighbors in the jungle town of Sukadana could get to the doctor, Webb learned they often paid for their health care and travel expenses by illegally cutting and selling timber from the nearby national park. In Sukadana, sometimes patients who have to pay full price for their care argue with the hospital’s cashier Nani Utari, saying that this system is unfair. And I couldn’t understand it until I had this moment of shock.”
Webb grew up without a lot of money in what she calls a small hippie town in New Mexico. Kinari Webb, founder of Health in Harmony. Credit:
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But Webb isn’t easily deterred. Right now, from their base in the town of Sukadana, Webb’s team is protecting only a tiny area: More than 10 parks the size of Gunung Palung National Park could fit inside the land that’s deforested in just one year in Indonesia. [Webb] really could pass the work to us.”
That actually happened about five years ago when a freak encounter with a box jellyfish left Webb bedridden for two years and forced her to hand over day-to-day operations of the clinic to her local staff. “He looked at me with the fear of death in his eyes,” Webb says. But at that moment, she realized her former home was nowhere near as remote or removed as she’d thought. Kinari Webb, founder of Health in Harmony and the ASRI clinic. Kinari Webb, founder of the ASRI clinic, known by the acronym for its Indonesian name, Alam Sehat Lestari. “Some people were suspicious of this Westerner,” says ASRI’s current executive director Dr. So he was scared. In a village on the western edge of Borneo, there’s a small hospital where people come from miles around to get treatment for everything from a broken arm to a heart attack.Player utilitiesPopout
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And no matter the currency they use, patients get a 70 percent discount if they live in an area where illegal logging activity has stopped. A winding path to opening a health clinic
Webb was inspired to create this clinic when she took a year off college in the 1990s to study orangutans deep in the Indonesian jungle. It hasn’t happened yet, so he’s still paying full price at the clinic. “You can feel the shaking of the earth when they land.”
Seeing first-hand the connection between health care and logging in Indonesia pushed Webb to abandon her college idea of becoming the next Jane Goodall. Webb has largely handed off day-to-day operations of the clinic to her Indonesian staff, and now splits her time between Indonesia and the US, where she raises money for the hospital through the non-profit organization Health in Harmony. As a passionate but slightly scattered college student, Webb thought it would be the first step toward a career in primatology. This is your chance to talk to the loggers to try to get them to stop.”
The whole clinic was founded on this idea of creating social pressure to stop logging. Monica Nirmala. “If he loses his hand, or the function of his hand, he will die,” Webb says she realized. Patches that have been burned for gardens sit smoldering by the roadside. It was just a small cut, so his reaction stunned Webb.
“But I think by providing health care and also linking them to conservation work, it’s really effective. Many of the narrow roads in the region are flanked by cleared land. But there’s another thing that sets this one-story, metal-roofed clinic apart: how patients pay for their health care. Credit:
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“There’s this one thing that happened to me that just really shifted where I thought I was going with my life,” Webb says. “Even if you’re not doing the logging,” Utari says, “the deforestation impacts you. That wasn’t always the case for this American woman in a remote part of Borneo. “Sometimes people do not really accept conservation organizations because they think that we only care about the forest, we don’t care about the people,” Nirmala says. It’s worked on a man named Masdi, who brought his wife to the clinic last month to be treated for a heart attack. An Indonesian colleague cut his hand when a machete slipped. Her colleague had never had a tetanus shot, and the nearest good hospital was more than 20 hours away. Recognizing the connection between health and the environment
The endangered orangutans Webb had been interested in in college get a lot of attention in Borneo. Webb’s mission is to improve the health of local residents while creating social pressure to stop illegal logging in and around the park, which is a haven for wildlife like the endangered Bornean orangutan. But he says because ASRI is such a good clinic, he doesn’t care. “Ninety-nine percent of [ASRI employees] are Indonesian, only one American works here. “I actually believed that the best way to save rainforests and to save orangutans was going to be to provide health care,” Webb says. About 60,000 residents of dozens of villages on the edge of the nearby Gunung Palung National Park are eligible for the discounts. She uses these protests as teaching moments. 22 for a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything) featuring Dr. Instead, she decided to go to medical school. It’s hard to know how much of that change is due to Webb’s work. Local conservation experts say the orangutan habitat within the national park has remained relatively protected since Webb’s clinic opened. There have been other efforts to discourage illegal logging over the last several years. PRI.org
Good health care in a remote town like Sukadana, in the Indonesian province of West Kalimantan, is hard to come by. Skeptics say this is one of the limitations of Webb’s model, and something that would make it hard to reproduce elsewhere. Her team is currently scouting locations to expand to a second location. When Webb explains her clinic, she frames the donations that allow for cheaper health care as a “thank-you gift” from the international community to Indonesians who have the power to protect the forest. He says he’s talked to his neighbors to try to convince them to stop logging. “So that people don’t have to log in order to pay for health care.”
Patients can pay with manure, seedlings, handicrafts including hand-woven baskets, or their labor. Labor-intensive methods mean it may be hard to scale up
ASRI staff monitors logging in the villages surrounding the Gunung Palung National Park, keeping detailed spreadsheets of how many loggers live in different sub-districts and other evidence of illegal logging. “They were thinking that [her clinic] might be a Christian mission or something like that.”
But Nirmala says that distrust has melted away, in large part because the clinic treats and employs people of all backgrounds and religions, and has become part of the community. But on that day more than 20 years ago, Webb realized that the people who lived in this remote town needed help too. It’s an increasingly vital safe zone for roughly 2,500 endangered Bornean orangutans, but as all the good timber surrounding the park was cut, even that protected area came under threat. “One of my neighbors in Sukadana, he cut down 60 trees to pay for a C-section,” Webb says of a more recent episode. “Truly terrified. In ASRI’s courtyard, seedlings that patients have used to pay for healthcare are a sign of what’s different about this clinic. Still, her data show that in that tiny patch, logging has gone down in the nearly 10 years that Webb’s clinic has been in operation. Read more: Indonesia’s forests are key for saving orangutans — and slowing climate change
Rising up in the middle of all that is Gunung Palung National Park. That dropped to 450 after the clinic had been in operation for five years, and today, Webb says fewer than 200 people (that’s individuals, not households) in villages bordering the national park are loggers. “You can pay with non-cash means,” says Dr. Find more stories here. According to ASRI data, when the clinic opened, there were an estimated 1,350 logging households around the national park. This story is part of a series on social entrepreneurs working to limit or reverse deforestation in Indonesia. It’s about 400 square miles of jungle, an island in a sea of villages, farms and palm oil plantations.
A ‘thank-you gift’ to forest protectors
Webb founded her clinic in Sukadana in 2007, and this October she expanded it and moved into a small hospital nearby. And while logging has gone down, there’s evidence that illegal farming in the park has gone up. “I thought I was going to study orangutans, I thought I was going to be like Jane Goodall,” Webb says, referring to the famous British primatologist.